John and Craig welcome Julia Louis-Dreyfus and David Mandel, two of the executive producers of HBO’s award-winning comedy series Veep. They discuss the writing process from blue-sky brainstorming to the final edit, how the show has evolved over the seasons, and striking the right tone during an unpredictable political climate. We also take a look at why unlikeable characters are important for conflict and what we can take away from the ending of Seinfeld. Links: Veep Julia Louis-Dreyfus David Mandel John August on Twitter Craig Mazin on Twitter Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Twitter David Mandel on Twitter John on Instagram Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Instagram Outro by Matthew Chilelli (send us yours!) Email us at
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