Over the last 30 years, Jack Dangers has experimented with dub, IDM, techno, dubstep and jazz fusion under aliases like Tino, the Forger and Meat Beat Manifesto, but his interest in government surveillance, paranoid tape loops and hypnotically suggestive electronics have found him in the industrial music record bins (helped by releases on Wax Trax! and collaborations with Consolidated and Emergency Broadcast Network). Vivian talks to the Bay Area-based Dangers about his Tapelab studios, his first Meat Beat album in seven years, his renewed interest in drum & bass and how he ended up with Suzanne Ciani's Buchla. Then, Heather Gabel calls in from Chicago to talk about HIDE, her searing, industrially minded duo with Seth Sher (themes include _Castration Anxiety_, collage and catharsis). Also in the show: Thoughts from Berlin breakcore mistress Hanin Elias from her RBMA lecture during CTM Festival.
