Why build declarative agents with Visual Studio Code vs Copilot Studio

In this episode Jeremy Thake talks to Sebastien Levert. The podcast focuses on the evolution and development of tools within the Microsoft 365 ecosystem, particularly around agent building and Copilot Studio.
The discussion highlights the distinction between low-code/no-code solutions for makers and pro-code tools for developers. Key tools such as Agent Builder and Teams Toolkit are explored, emphasizing their respective strengths: Agent Builder's accessibility for information workers versus Teams Toolkit's power and flexibility for professional developers.
They discuss how developers can leverage Visual Studio Code, adaptive cards, and GitHub integration for building robust, scalable agents. A recurring theme is enabling seamless collaboration between makers and developers, with a focus on governance, scalability, and customization, particularly for enterprise-grade agents.
The conversation also delves into advancements in API integration, such as using OpenAPI files and the emerging