My geekiness is in overdrive this week as I get to talk to award winning game designer Matt Leacock! we talk about his history in the industry, his games pandemic, forbidden island, his latest release forbidden desert and his current 2-0 record against wil wheaton and tabletop! We also discuss his current work at sococo which i highly recommend you have a look at https://www.sococo.com/home! advance warning: I do ask about america again, not that I really want to go or anything...(someone please invite me!) great podcast and please buy his games from your friendly local game store as they and the games are genuinely brilliant!