Like the rest of the world, the two Grumps find themselves in lock down, and resultingly engage in a bit of a catch up via Skype. What began as a general chat about our lockdown listening and viewing (by way of a dissection of Danzig's "Verotika") soon takes a less light hearted turn as Bushie discusses his experience of both personally and professionally dealing with Covid 19, and the two debate wether or not extreme music and its' associated genre tropes are in fact of any value in the current climate.
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